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AVI Searching Guide
Last updated October 2009
This collection of info is maintained with the help of the adopted Vietnamese community and its supporters. Updates to this guide and the searching register welcome.
If you have any sources of information, corrections or suggested resources which you think can help searching adoptees, Amerasians, first parents and other relatives separated during the Viet Nam War (and contemporary adoptions) please do not hesitate to forward it to adoptedvietnamese@hotmail.com
It is hoped that the following information will be useful as you begin to conduct your search.
AVI SEARCHING FOR BIRTH RELATIVES TEAM
Michael Purling - Searching Regiser Data Manager and IT Advisor, based in NSW Australia.
mpurling@ramp.com.au
Indigo Willing - Searching Info Guide, AVI founder, based in QLD, Australia
Jennifer Szetho - Has some info from her search, resides in VIC, Australia.
adoptedvietnamese@hotmail.com
AVA Web
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STAGE ONE
It is helpful for you to collect as much information as you can about your adoption. This is because thousand of orphans were sent overseas and the trick is to narrow your own case down as much as possible. Keep a ‘scrap-book’ or folder of all your records that you can collect, with ‘diary’ entries of what you do – and only send out copies (not the originals) to people or organizations. This will help you track your progress and to identify subtle things that might be helpful to you as you progress on your search. When approaching people who were involved with the adoptions from Vietnam, it is helpful to provide them with the following:-
1. Your Vietnamese name if known
2. The orphanage you were from and age on arrival
3. Any birth records with names of birth parents
4. The village, district or province that you were from
5. The year you were adopted, left Vietnam and what age you were
6. Baby photos if available – and a list of any distinguishing features you may have.
You may find that your adoptive parents or others, such as adoption agencies, will already be in possession of this information. If you do not have access to your records you may also try contacting the local state and/or federal government department that administrated your immigration and adoption. The laws vary according to your location but often the government will have records of your Vietnamese birth certificate and some orphanage papers with signatures and addresses of witnesses. Although the legitimacy of these records varies, most of these papers can still be useful in tracing your birth parents eg. if only providing the year of your birth and village.
In the USA try the INS http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/aboutins/history/tools.htm
In Australia – please seek out your local state department that is in charge of foreign adoptions at the AVI Australians page or the Attorney General's Office post-adoption link
The Vietnamese Government has recently decided to issue Vietnamese born people with their birth certificate. For more info please contact Amerasian Family Finder at
amerasian@amerasianfamilyfinder.com
STAGE TWO
For your own independent searching options it is useful to consider contacting people who were involved with operation babylift, the adoption agency that arranged your adoption, the overseas Vietnamese community newspapers in your area (eg. there are hundreds in America and a good few in Australia) and elsewhere (over 2 million Vietnamese have re-setteled overseas in places including Canada, Europe and the Pacific Islands since the war). See media organizations in Vietnam who are interested in promoting searches in their community announcements.
There is also the option of contacting newspapers and television stations in Vietnam and visiting Vietnam in person. For VN newspapers try:Nhan Dan newspaper, www.nhandan.org.vn Email: toasoan@nhandan.org.vn Tel: 84-4-825-4231/4232 or Tuoi Tre Newspaper - 161 Ly-Chinh-Thang St - Dist.3, HCM City - Tel: 84-8-844-5984/5986 Translators will most likely required . Some adoption agencies that deal with adoption in Vietnam or orphanages may offer this service either for a fee or for free. However, there are other sensitive cultural issues and other cautionary factors that you should take into account. Also, if you do meet people that you feel are related to you, the evidence will ultimately depend on a DNA test.
In addition, you may want to contact other adoptees who are searching for family in your area i.e. adoptees from Danang if you were born there, as they may have done a lot of research themselves that can be helpful to you. You might find some on the AVI searching table. Some adoptees may even have recent pictures of your orphanage – and even contact lists that they developed from their own visits there in the past. Also – you can help others so please feel free to share any info you find out - as we, as a community, have been assisting each other accomplish great milestones.
ALSO SEE TRISTA GOLDBERG'S OPERATION REUNITE10 Questions to Ask Before You Search
Written by Hollee McGinnis, a Korean Adoptee who also has a lot of experience as an adoption professional. McGinnis graduated cum laude from Mount Holyoke College, where she completed an independent study on ethnic and racial identity of college-aged Korean adoptees, and a paper on the history of Vietnamese intercountry adoptions
http://www.akconnection.com/search/thesearch.asp?cat=search
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COMMUNITY ANNOUNCMENTS
*- Emmanuelle Babey writes 2009:
I am a VN adoptee from France, is setting up a new sight to assist adopted Vietnamese war orphans find information about their birth parents and extended family, plus general information about orphanges. I have many photos of orphanages available. To find out more contact: emmanuellebabey@yahoo.fr
(also visit http://www.darlo.tv/indigo/VVorphanages.html )
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* LYNELLE writes on Oct 2008:
Hi .. some of you may not be aware, but each State/Territory Govt in Australia has one of these Registry's that you can keep your contact details updated in, should the case arise that birth family or relatives contact the Australian Govt to find you.
This arose to my attention due to being on the NSW Adoption & Perm Care Committee where the case worker for DoCS advised of having had 4 birth mothers (mostly from Korea) contact DoCS seeking contact with their child, believed to be adopted to an Australian family. In all these cases, contact has been established.
The following is the link to RIR in NSW .. so those of you who were adopted via NSW, might want to consider updating your details. It costs $65 ($35 concession) to lodge yourself in the register ... if you don't wish to pay the fee, just write and contact DoCS advising you are interested in contact should a birth parent come forward one day - they will make up a file for you at no cost.
http://www.community.nsw.gov.au/docswr/_assets/main/documents/adopt_reunion_register_fact.pdf
This link will be provided on our Resources page on the ICASN website. I'm in the process of seeking the equivalent links or information from each State/Territory and will make the info available as it comes.
Cheers
Regards
Lynelle Beveridge
Founder/Director
Inter-Country Adoptee Support Network (ICASN)
www.icasn.org/
- Also see ICASN's new webpage on post adoption support services with a state by state guide on options for Australians
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* DOROTHEE Writes in Nov 2008:
I found on Facebook Anne Dolan - McCrudden, a children nurse who worked at Allambie from 1972 to july 1973 with Rosemary taylor and Susan McDonald.
Anne McCrudden is looking after children who spent time at Allambie during her time.
Please tell me if you want to get in touch with this woman or if you know adoptees (living now in Australia or USA) from Allambie who taken care by her.
Write me with e-mail address, I 'll give it to Anne McCrudden.
She also asks June 2009:
"Do you know a woman named Jacqueline Hardy. She lived in Saigon (around 1973) and took care for some children from Rosemary Taylor's orphanages when they have health problems or integration difficulties".
To contact Dorothee - dorocal66@yahoo.fr
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* EMMANUELLE AKA LĘ THI MY HOŔNG (FRANCE) writes in April 2008:
Hello everyone,
On April 2008, thanks to a Vietnamese friend,
I have met the journalists who run
the televised program: "As there has never been any separation"
If I remember well, it is broadcasted once per month
and is very followed by the Vietnamese.
This emission allows all abroad Vietnamese
to find their families in Vietnam (adopted or not).
All the persons who handle the search are not remunerated
and do it really to help their compatriots to find their families.
So, please, if you decide to call on this emission,
think it thoroughly.
Doing research require a lot of time, of travel and of money.
Believe me as I know what I am saying, doing myself the research during my trips to Vietnam for
some adoptees; voluntarily, for sure with the help of Vietnamese friends,,,... the most frustrating
thing is to help people and when you are close to the objective, they just do not provide any more information!!!
In summary, through this emission, you commit yourself to be filmed if your family has been found (as <lost of contact>), after the DNA test, of course at your expense.
It means that you commit yourself to come to Vietnam (if the emission has found your family) and
that your reunion will be filmed by this televised emission.
Unfortunately, as the journalists have told me, all the families have not been found...
For those who are interested, first of all you must fill out the forms before contacting the televised channel.
All the forms must be filled out in English only.
Do not omit any details.
Your photos should be in the best quality as possible.
(photo of yourself at the youngest age possible and actual)
I take also the opportunity to send you a photo of Quynh Huynh, the journalist of this small
televised channel (that has very limited resources) together with her business card and the one of another journalist Minh Luan.
Both of them handle the requests of family gatherings.
Do not hesitate to contact them in English, they are very nice.
Of course, there are other televised channels in Vietnam, but
not unpaid...
Friendly yours,
Emmanuelle aka Lę Thi My Hoŕng (France) - emmanuellebabey@yahoo.fr
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*My Huong Le writes for 2009 - 2010
My Huong Le, an Australian VN adoptee living in Vung Tau and
overseeing several schools and orphanages, is interested in compiling
signatures of support for a TV announcement directed at birth mothers
to raise awareness about searching adoptees. If you would like to hear
about her early planning stages for this please email her at:
myhuongle@gmail.com
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*Indigo Willing writes for 2009 - 2010
AVI is working with Operation Reunite on sharing the archive AVI
searching for birth parents register info for their planned database
(overseen by Trista Goldberg and Kevin Maes). If you have submitted to
this in the past, please contact Michael Purling: mpurling@ramp.com.au
to update your email. Many are out of date and we need to keep them
for potential enquirers and so that OR can discuss their database in
development. If you would like to add your details to the AVI
searching for birth parents register you can also contact Michael.
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*John Nguyen, 2009 shares:
Dear Adoptees
An adoptee friend in the US, John Nguyen, has kindly shared the below
information about a television show in Vietnam (in Vietnamese
language) that assists people searching for relatives. The link is
http://www.haylentieng.vn/
The same applies to all media I guess - you have to take some chances
with your privacy and let go of a lot of control when you open your
life to a third party of journalists. But it could be very good
resource too.
He Wrote:
there is a program by Vietnam Television network called "Nhu chua
he co cuoc chia ly" contacted for detail so they help to
investigate and plan on running on nationwide television program.
This is a non profit program and they found quite a lot of missing
people with striking, imazing re-union stories. If any of us,
adoptee needs searching for family, I strongly recommend to contact
them. Here is their website: http://www.facebook.com/l.php?
u=http://www.haylentieng.vn%2F"
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STAGE THREE
You can now follow up and do your own research using the additional info you have begun to organize and collect. Ultimately for now, we are our own detectives but the groups or services below in alphabetical order are beginning to some resourceful options for searching:.
SOME OF THE RESOURCES BELOW HAVE HYPERLINKS TO THE INTERNET
* In alphabetical order
- Amerasian Family Finder: Amerasians who are helping other Amerasians (from Korea, Vietnam, Phillipines and other) find their relatives and negotiate numerous other issues of concern to this community can now network their resources via former Amerasian Foundation volunteer, Jennifer at amerasian@amerasianfamilyfinder.com
Here is the website: www.amerasianfamilyfinder.com plus her special page for Vietnam is: http://www.amerasianfamilyfinder.org/VietnamSearch.html
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- Amerasian Foundation
http://amerasianfoundation.org/
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Adoption Links for Vietnam: http://www.myadoptionlinks.com/Vietnam.html
-.* DNA Bank for Adoptees Seeking Birth Parents An ambitious project yet to prove practical, it is however a milestone idea in the process of adoptees searching for the birth parents. The Seeker, in conjunction with DNATesting.com is now conducting DNA Banking to help reunite adoptees with birth parents.
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-. Holt Adoption Agency offers assistance to Vietnamese adoptees searching for their birth parents for a fee. Holt is responsible for around 30% of the US Operation Babylift adoptions in 1975. They also have a list of orphanage contacts from those that were operating in 1975 and may still be in operation.
www.holtintl.org
P.O. Box 2880
1195 City View | Eugene, OR 97402
Office Hours: 8:00 am to 4:30 pm (PST)
Phone: (541) 687-2202 | Fax: (541) 683-6175
Email: info@holtinternational.org
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Operation Babylift 1975 SUSAN MCDONALD, Author, (with Rosemary Taylor) still receives letters from women in Vietnam searching for husbands, fathers of their children. They have sent birth records, marriage certificates and other identifying documents, trying to locate these men. She has catalogued all this info--by Vietnamese women's names; towns; branch of military; dates; men's names; children's names; dates, etc. This could possibly be helpful for anyone trying to locate birth parents. She also has info on over 40 orphanages. Please contact Susan directly with your name, Viet birth records and orphanage details if possible at EMAIL her c/-: susanmcdo@aol.com or mail: Sister Susan Carol McDonald, 826 N. Rock Hill Roadn St. Louis, MO 63119 USA
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Operation Unite - ***Highly recommended*** at www.operationreunite.com founded by Trista Goldberg at email: TristaGoldberg@earthlink.net She is a Vietnamese Ameriasian who found her birth mother and is now dedicated to helping other VN adoptees on their journey. Since Nov 2008 they have also begun weekly teleconference calls in the US.
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-.The Post Adoptive Resource Centre (PARC), NSW Australia has just released a new Searching for Birth Parents Guide book. There is a chapter for Vietnamese adoptees with input by AVI and other sources. You can find out more by contacting the editor, Ms Thea Ormond TheaO@bensoc.org.au
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Refugee & Missing Relatives (in Vietnamese only ) has searching posts from people looking for lost relatives from theVietnam war here
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-. RED CROSS LOCATION SERVICE has been able to reunite lost relatives including orphans with their birth parents from the Vietnam War. There special connection to Vietnam after the war was with their work in Vietnamese refugee camps. The American Red Cross provides tracing and location services in accordance with the Geneva Conventions, our Congressional Charter of 1905, and our obligations as a member of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement. Tracing is an American Red Cross "Must" service; all American Red Cross chapters and stations on U.S. military installations overseas are required to provide this service to their communities.
http://chapters.redcross.org/nj/gscc/international_services.html Or, please call (908)725-2217 in USA
The International Social Service - Australian Branch
International Social Service works across borders with those in vulnerable situations, with a special emphasis on children. We work to ensure entitlement and protection under international human rights frameworks, through the professional delivery of casework and advocacy services.
For Australia please see http://www.iss.org.au/
SS has two offices in Australia
Office hours are 9.00 am to 5.00 pm Monday to Friday. Appointments are essential.
National Office_Level 2, 313-315 Flinders Lane_Melbourne Victoria 3000_AUSTRALIA
Phone:
+61 3 9614 8755 from outside Australia
(03) 9614 8755 from within Australia.
Toll free number:
1300 657 843
Fax:
+61 3 9614 8766 from outside Australia
(03) 9614 8766 from within Australia.
Email: iss@iss.org.au
NSW Office (for enquiries relating to NSW) _Suite 8, Level 1_13-15 Wentworth Avenue_Sydney NSW 2000_AUSTRALIA
Phone:
+61 2 9267 0300 from outside Australia
(02) 9267 0300 from within Australia
Fax:
+61 2 9267 3886 from outside Australia
(02) 9267 3886 from within Australia
Email: adminnsw@iss.org.au
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-. Return to Vietnam: About Vietnam Motherland Tours http://www.motherlandtour.com/tour.htm
Annual event
Organized for former adoptees, families and friends, the Vietnam Motherland Tour offers an opportunity for adoptees to reconnect with their roots and share the experience with fellow adoptees. The tour combines a balance of visiting places of personal significance with cultural and historical sightseeing of modern day Vietnam. Unique to the Motherland Tours is that each trip is tailored to an individual's background. We do our best to accommodate visits to towns/villages, orphanages, and nurseries relevant to the individual's background. Each place is thoroughly researched in advance so no time is wasted when the participants are in country. Meetings with former childcare workers and administrators are also well organized in advanced so that reunions can be made possible. If you are planning to go to Vietnam by yourself they can still advise you on important info such as if your orphanage is still running or the original location etc. and advise on good translators you can trust etc.
-Sancta Maria Orphanage Peter Hill was this orphanage’s Reunion Convenor and has access to a CD rom which lists names of children who were adopted out of the Sancta Maria Orphanage (developed by VN adoptee Kym Blackwell). Peter’s email is peterandtrinh@yahoo.com.au
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- Sao Mai Searching for Birthparents Webpage for Amerasians
http://members.tripod.com/vnam_family_search/
To try more searching we suggest www.google.com to be one of the best search engines on the web (type enquiry below).
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- Soc Trang Orphanage
- There is a Yahoo Support group for those who adopted from Soc Trang. You might get some answers from someone in the group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SocTrang/
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-. VAN - USA
Visit other adopted Vietnamese websites like www.van-online.org as they also have various information circulating about searching for birth parents. The Vietnamese Adoptee Network is the largest group for adopted Vietnamese in the USA and elsewhere. It is a non-profit and offers a range of ongoing support for the community.
-Victoria Adoption Registry Australia
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Adoption Registry Connect is a worldwide adoptee and birth parent
search registry designed to reunite adoptees with their birth parents
and siblings.
http://www.adopteeconnect.com/p/a/1067/
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-Vietnamese brought out through the COR 1967 – 68 airlifts
In December 1966, the Committee of Responsibility (COR) was formed and incorporated in New York. COR was comprised of medical personnel,
scientists, clergymen, and concerned citizens who had agonized over
American involvement in the bloody Vietnamese Conflict, and who were
seeking avenues for helping the civilians injured in the crossfire. In
October 1967, the first three children arrived in the States. Over the
ensuing months, nearly 100 children were evacuated and received the
finest medical care possible. A few of you may find your names on the list at the bottom of this document [box 30].
See
http://www.swarthmore.edu/Library/peace/DG151-175/DG173COR.html
For more information, contact Wendy Chmielewski, Curator,
at wchmiel@ swarthmore.edu
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- Where are you? ( Site in English and Vietnamese) also has searching posts from people looking for lost relatives from the Vietnam war here